went to Llandudno Saturday night with big h and keeper v and the only place to fish was by the little orme in front of the houses so didn't get a chance to speak to any of the sunny rhyl lads I did manage to speak to one lad on my right he was from macclesfield came over for the day he had only had small whiting and a small coddling big h was getting mini whiting two at a time but did manage to get three keepers I had nine whiting with three keepers and keeper v had six whiting no keepers I did take some pics with my phone but they were to dark looking forward to the report from logger sorry I missed you dave will catch you all next time