petition have a read

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/116747

I've signed it.

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(Well done Phil)

Can't actually believe the netters  can carry on whilst we are banned

NUTS

Talk about back to front

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Even signed it here, good one

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Great link Phill.

its over 10k now only another 90k to go

I've signed, also emailed the MP to let him know I've signed! Maybe we should all do the same? Let him know a section of his constituents are wanting action on this. 1 email from me may well be ignored, but if he received a large number of emails? All from anglers wanting action on the same subject? Maybe he'll take note. After all a few hundred emails from sunny Rhyl members asking for action on this shouldn't go unnoticed!

Petition is at 12,700+ now, so the government is obliged to respond at least.

can any one understand the reply that the GOV Have come back with ?

No Phil

I don't understand it!

Paul

For those who didn't sign it this reply was emailed back today from the Gov.
If you understand it please explain it!




The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “The decision to water down the recent European decision on the bass stocks”.

Government responded:

The petition title misrepresents the EU process. UK Government successfully ensured anglers could fish for sport and the derogation for gillnets excluded driftnets that take most UK netting catches.

The UK Government has not sought to water down the EU decision to protect bass stocks agreed in the EU fisheries Council on 15 December 2015, as suggested in the petition title. The terms of the petition are either a misrepresentation or misunderstanding of the EU process and the UK Government’s approach.

It is actually the UK Government that has consistently pressed for EU action to address the decline of the stock, and we secured emergency action in 2015. We were not the authors of the recent proposal for 2016, however – this was a Commission proposal – nor indeed of the derogations offered in the compromise deal tabled at Council. However the agreement for 2016 is tougher on most sectors than that for 2015.

The UK Government did manage to achieve some key outcomes to adjust both the proposal and the related compromise deal. These help to protect the EU bass stock’s progress to sustainable fishing and the interests of both recreational and small scale commercial fishermen as EU bass fisheries move towards that goal, as follows.

We fought for and secured continuation of a recreational catch and release fishery for recreational sea anglers during the 6 month moratorium on bass catches, which was under threat in the Commission proposal wording. This means that anglers and charter vessels can continue sport-fishing activity throughout the year, subject to the ban proposed by the Commission on keeping bass during the first six months, coupled with a single fish daily bag limit per person in the second half of the year.

While accepting the principle of the proposed 6 month moratorium and a subsequent catch limit of 1 tonne per vessel per month for most commercial fisheries, we aimed to avoid disproportionate impacts on the lower impact, small-scale inshore hook and line and inshore fixed gillnet fisheries during the first 6 months. But as the UK Government position was for a more modest derogation than that offered on the day, we sought to reduce the impact of this on bass stocks.

Our negotiating position was based on different fisheries’ relative impacts and reflected several factors. Hook and line has the highest degree of selectivity for the right size of bass taken – though gillnets also perform well compared with other fishing methods. We also needed to consider the proportion of the bass catch taken by UK vessels using these methods: although the nets gear group has previously accounted for half of the annual UK bass total landings (46% average from 2011-2013), drift-netting is estimated to account for up to 90% of this, as the Commission are aware, and drift-netting was not agreed for inclusion in the derogation.

In the final compromise these two commercial fisheries (hook and line and fixed gillnets) were given identical derogations for all Member States fishing for bass (February-March moratorium and 1.3 tonne catch limit all year). The UK Government negotiating position in advance of the Council decision had been to press for lower – and differentiated – catch limits for derogations to apply for these two EU fisheries (excluding drift-netting) during the moratorium. But while the compromise offered higher monthly catch limits for netting, matching the limits for hook and line, these are not applicable to the majority of UK netting activity and are combined with the complete closure for two months.

It was necessary to agree EU-level measures for bass in this way because we share the fishery with other Member States who need to be fully signed up if we are to achieve stock recovery. We now at least have a firm timetable with Member States’ and Commission agreement, to achieve sustainable fishing of bass by 2018, and the EU’s interim management package will increasingly be complemented by regional measures, including in the context of multi-annual management plans driven by the Member States concerned, as well as national ones.

Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

Click this link to view the response online:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/116747?reveal_response=yes

The Petitions Committee will take a look at this petition and its response. They can press the government for action and gather evidence. If this petition reaches 100,000 signatures, the Committee will consider it for a debate.

The Committee is made up of 11 MPs, from political parties in government and in opposition. It is entirely independent of the Government. Find out more about the Committee: https://petition.parliament.uk/help#petitions-committee

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The Petitions team
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I certainly didn't understand it when I read it this morning
It's a typical politicians reply though, cover the subject with as much bull as possible leaving everyone trying to work it all out in the hope that by the time we've all realised it's a nonsense it'll be to late as the next pressing issue will be upon us and the original problem will be long forgotten

Well said Logger who voted the tossers in?  

Kirky's Dad wrote:

Well said Logger who voted the tossers in?  

..we all did uk meps come from all the partys

They don`t seem to understand that all gill netters are not commercial fishermen, the ones we see round here are most likely just supplementing their meagre unemployment benefits, real commercial netters are not the problem.

Further Email received.....


You recently signed the petition "The decision to water down the recent European decision on the bass stocks":
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/116747

On Thursday 11 February MPs debated recreational sea bass fishing. This debate was scheduled following a bid from Scott Mann MP, Simon Hart MP and Charles Walker MP.

You can watch the debate on Parliament TV: http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/93aa8dec-9495-467f-a3eb-a0623f7aab5d?in=15:14:54&out=00:0

You can view the transcript of the debate here: https://hansard.digiminster.com/commons/2016-02-11/debates/16021158000001/RecreationalSeaBassFishing

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