help me plees

You`ve picked the wrong time of the year for experimenting, there are only rockling being caught at most of the local venues.Talacre is a good bet over low water for dabs, but you need to go with someone who knows the place well, it`s no place to go on your own, you can get cut off by the tide if you leave too late, or lost if the fog comes down.

Hi Neil
3 of us are going to Pensarn thurs 9am your welcome to join us if you fancy trying somewhere different
Mick

Neil you have a pm

neil bass wrote:

im looking at doing tomorow low on the roll back were abouts in talacre ? do you no what bait would be best? thanx for reply

You have been advised not to go there without someone that is experienced there, I would suggest you take that advice mate !

neil bass wrote:

take a chill ian and thanx for advice

chill pill taken, but you asked for the advice fella !

ianroberts wrote:

neil bass wrote:

take a chill ian and thanx for advice

chill pill taken, but you asked for the advice fella !

It's a dangerous place!!!
Good advice Ian!

Cambodian wrote:

I grew up there and heard a few horror stories over the years


The one that stuck out in mind was a couple of guys were either fishing or cockle picking in the 80s and the fog dropped, they were disorientated and ended up walking towards mostyn.
Apparently both died of hypothermia and exhaustion from crawling through the mud.... Not sure how true it is but still sends a shiver down my spine thinking of it.

And a £5 compass would have saved their lives!

not sure about this story .The compass may have helped save their lives if they had known how to use it

http://www.rhyl.lifeboat.btinternet.co.uk/awbsvce2007.htm

3/2/2007. 1737 The crews were alerted at 6.30pm on Saturday 3rd February, to go to the aid of a person on board the angling boat “Crusader” who had grounded his boat at Talacre, and was stranded by the ebbing tide. The crew were just about to attend their annual crew dinner. Both Rhyl’s ILB and AWB were launched. Rhyl’s Coastguard team were also alerted Visibility was less than 30 metres, and progress was slow as the lifeboats were continuously going into shallow waters to find the vessel and it’s owner. At the same time, the coastguard learned that up to 70 shore fishermen in a fishing competition; and up to 20 other fishermen; were also lost in the fog between Prestatyn and Talacre. Extra coastguards were brought in, and Hoylake’s AWB was also launched to search from the East. After arriving on scene, the crew on Rhyl’s AWB heard shouts for help from the shore. The crew launched the small inflatable from the all-weather lifeboat, and rowed ashore to a single fisherman who had been bait digging, and was lost. About 250 metres down the beach, 2 more fishermen were heard, and they were brought to the AWB by the ILB. Hoylake’s crew managed to find the owner of the “Crusader”, just east of Talacre lighthouse. He was taken on board their boat. The “Crusader” was now high and dry, but the incoming tide was threatening to take the boat away. The owner was transferred to Rhyl from Hoylake , and both Rhyl's boats stood by until the ILB crew could re-float it. It was then escorted to Prestatyn Sailing club and recovered. Rhyl’s crews returned to station at 1.30am on Sunday, being at sea for over 7 hours.

At the same time, the volunteer coastguards from Rhyl and Flint managed to assist over 70 fishermen to safety from the beaches between Prestatyn and Mostyn, all persons being accounted for. Llandudno’s AWB was also launched to search for an emergency beacon, somewhere between Rhyl and Abergele, but nothing was found. The beacon was found later, 6 miles inland from Rhyl, in a farmyard.

Unfortunately, the annual dinner was only attended by the crew’s wives and guests !!

The "Crusader" and the angling party have been classed as 2 separate services for the records.

Paul, the above isnt a true reflection of the events on the night!

I was there and the first we knew of the coastguards was when they met us at the carpark after they had told us to leave the beach or the police would be waiting for us when we finished!

We walked off in 2 large groups using compasses to get back.

2 pleasure anglers who became lost were picked up by the lifeboat and another group of 5 anglers followed some tyre tracks on the beach and ended up getting back to the cars via Gronant where the coastguard vehicle whose tracks they had followed turned around! These lads were in contact with the coastguard on the phone and were heading in the right direction until the tyre tracks disorientated them.

The coastguard blew the whole thing up by threatening the organiser of the WFSA match with police action if he didnt get the lads off the beach immediately then went on to claim how they had rescued us all from certain doom when they hadnt ventured onto the beach by the time we got back!

Noted Kevin!

Not a pop at you Paul, aimed at the dickheads who reported it at the time in various local papers, those who believed every word they read and the coastguard who must have issued the false facts and figures for them to report in the first place!

Of course, it was discussed on the forums at the time with the majority of people believing what they had read and calling into question the reputations of the organisers of our club match and the welsh team qualifier which were being held on the night. People with years of experience fishing this coast and who dealt with the situation ( which arose after we had started fishing ) in a calm manner unlike some of the other organisations already mentioned!

headwyn wrote:

Not a pop at you Paul, aimed at the dickheads who reported it at the time in various local papers, those who believed every word they read and the coastguard who must have issued the false facts and figures for them to report in the first place!

Of course, it was discussed on the forums at the time with the majority of people believing what they had read and calling into question the reputations of the organisers of our club match and the welsh team qualifier which were being held on the night. People with years of experience fishing this coast and who dealt with the situation ( which arose after we had started fishing ) in a calm manner unlike some of the other organisations already mentioned!

well put across kev

Didn't think it was a pop

Shows the potential for the unwary anyway

I know it was you in the boat Geoff and that was the reason for the rescue services being called in the first place. Lucky for some that they were there. Thats not my beef, the reporting of the incident is!

The 2 groups leaving the beach both had compasses and walked directly to the Smugglers carpark where we encountered the coastguards for the first time.

A head count was done at the cars and it was found that 5 people who were fishing in the matches were unaccounted for. These 5 had stayed together and were in contact with the coastguard via phone. They are the group who were walking to Gronant and back following the tyre tracks.

The coastguard had asked us how many pleasure anglers and bait diggers were out on the bank that night??? Apparently the 2 lads picked up by the lifeboat had come from South Wales to pleasure fish while one of their mates fished the qualifier.

Once both match organisers had confirmed to the coastguard that all competitors were back at the carpark, they went to check the beach for pleasure anglers/bait diggers as we couldnt give them a figure as to how many other people had been using the beach.