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PostSubject: Herring   Herring EmptyFri Nov 16, 2018 1:15 pm

When do the herring show up,and for how long.?
Do you jig for them similar to Mackerel with the same size hooks.?
Are they bottom feeders or mid water feeders?
Any point in using a two hook running ledger?
I'll be fishing from a boat,do you find the shoal and then do continual drifts through it.?
What baits,black lug and squid strips,Rag etc?
I've never seen one caught,so any help will be appreciated Gents.
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PostSubject: Re: Herring   Herring EmptySat Nov 17, 2018 9:24 am

Mine have always come in tins. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Herring   Herring EmptySat Nov 17, 2018 10:27 am

Kirky's Dad wrote:
Mine have always come in tins. Very Happy

Haha,it's bit hard to get the hook in a tin if you use them for bait lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Herring   Herring EmptySun Nov 18, 2018 1:57 am

Seeing as how you cannot get any seriouse answers from the UK, I know the odd one is caught with the mackerel,.small bait flies would be the way to go, but first you have to find them! I think they feed on plankton.
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PostSubject: Re: Herring   Herring EmptySun Nov 18, 2018 8:37 am

Rhod Lloyd wrote:
Seeing as how you cannot get any seriouse answers from the UK, I know the odd one is caught with the mackerel,.small bait flies would be the way to go, but first you have to find them! I think they feed on plankton.
I'll have you know Lloyd that was a serious answer. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Herring   Herring EmptySun Nov 18, 2018 12:02 pm

Cheers Rhod,I suppose Herring can be geared up for.
There a guy in the USA that was selling underwater lights to attract fish.
Apparently,the smallest plankton gets eaten by the next size up plankton(forgotton the plankton names)That plankton then gets eaten by small fish,and that attracts the bigger fish.
He did a vid on it,it worked.(The light attracts the plankton initially.)It works in fresh and seawater.
He demonstrated it on a lake,and he showed he got fish attracted within a few minutes.
Sounds a bit barmy I know,Haha.
An idle mind is a fishermans playground lol!
There's no teeth in the winter here yet,fingers crossed.
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PostSubject: Re: Herring   Herring EmptySun Nov 18, 2018 12:05 pm

Kirky's Dad wrote:
Rhod Lloyd wrote:
Seeing as how you cannot get any seriouse answers from the UK, I know the odd one is caught with the mackerel,.small bait flies would be the way to go, but first you have to find them! I think they feed on plankton.
I'll have you know Lloyd that was a serious answer. Very Happy

Fried or boiled,they are all the same to me lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Herring   Herring EmptySun Nov 18, 2018 10:56 pm

Many of the charter boats that do multy day trips anchor overnight at islands or sheltered bays on the coast. They have underwater lights on the stern to attract bait fish. first the active plankton appear then Krill or shrimps which then attract bait fish, then sometimes the bigger predators. On the east coast we have flying fish and it is great fun trying to dip these with a long handled net at night. the other bait fish attracted are three types of mackeral and sometimes squid. some places the kingfish have learnt that this is a good spot to ambush the flying fish. It can be more fun baitfishing at night than the daytime fishing.
With sealed LED lights, it would be interesting to try them off a pier or wharf at night.
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PostSubject: Re: Herring   Herring EmptyMon Nov 19, 2018 10:36 pm

All the herrings I've caught have been while I've been feathering for mackerel Stan thumbs up
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PostSubject: Re: Herring   Herring EmptyTue Nov 20, 2018 10:04 am

Cheers Steve,long time no see.Hope all is well with you. lol!

Maybe a string of mackerel feathers with smaller hooks might work.?

I was wondering about cod liver oil and bran in a fine mesh bag.(down sized chum)

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PostSubject: Re: Herring   Herring EmptyTue Nov 20, 2018 10:04 am

Cheers Steve,long time no see.Hope all is well with you. lol!

Maybe a string of mackerel feathers with smaller hooks might work.?

I was wondering about cod liver oil and bran in a fine mesh bag.(down sized chum)
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PostSubject: Re: Herring   Herring EmptyTue Nov 20, 2018 10:07 am

Whoops,if I was dealing at Blackjack,they would call that a double shuffle. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Herring   Herring EmptyWed Nov 21, 2018 8:48 am

Sabaki rigs or small feathers will do the trick

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PostSubject: Re: Herring   Herring EmptyWed Nov 21, 2018 10:01 am

SimonT wrote:
Sabaki rigs or small feathers will do the trick

I think I may try small feathers Si,the sabiki rigs seem to tangle very easily.
I've got some rigs that are like mackerel feathers,there are 5 to a rig,but they stick out like a paternoster.There's no feathers on them or hooks.I might try small hooks and try different baits on them.
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