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PostSubject: Any Mullet?   Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:31 pm

Just wondering if anyone is seeing any mullet around Rhyl harbour?

Will be staying near Abergele next weekend, so thought I might pop over and have a bash at one???
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:55 pm

Hi Pete,

I am new to this site. I suppose you can come to the conclusion, that the mullet are not about in this area yet, due to the lack of responses, but you would think that someone else would have had the decency to reply! Someone sticks a fishing report on however, and notice people replying in seconds........Rolling Eyes

I am knew to sea angling and don't know about mullet around Rhyl area, but I have seen a couple of small ones around Anglesey in past week. I am guessing it is a tad early and they will show in numbers in a few weeks time, just as the Macs will do also. I say this because I caught a 6 pound mullet late last summer from same spot in Anglesey ( that's when I just  I started seafishing ) and I have never seen so many mullet ..........swarms of them, yet at present just a few.
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:57 pm

See the answer i gave you on World Sea Fishing.
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:06 pm

Wasn't home yesterday and wasn't able to get on line or would have replied, not everyone is in Rhyl and wouldn't be in a position to comment.
We regularly walk the harbour area and I always take a look over the rail for Mullet but haven't spotted any this year yet, I don't think I saw any here last year either, kind of wonder if the harbour works disturbed them last year.
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:56 am

Thanks for the replies gents...I will probably only get a chance to fish on either Saturday or Sunday evening so thought I might give them a try...I might take a second rod and try for a flounder.....

I was in Porthmadog a couple of weeks back and there was no sign of the Mullet there either although the water was still a bit coloured with algae which probably doesn't help...
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:41 pm

Sorry couldn't reply sooner I've no phone signal let alone internet where I am in the lakes at the moment so can only catch up on the weekend Crying or Very sad

Don't know about the Mullet but it's always been a good mark for Flounder cth

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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:23 am

Not been on here for quite a while. Theres no mullet in the harbour yet but it won't be long before they are.
And if no one replies to a question I'd take it as nobody knows.....you don't really want 20 posts saying "sorry don't know" do you
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:45 pm

[quote="simon parry"]Not been on here for quite a while. Theres no mullet in the harbour yet but it won't be long before they are.
And if no one replies to a question I'd take it as nobody knows.....you don't really want 20 posts saying "sorry don't know" do you[/quote

Who are you, an 'expert'? Rolling Eyes  How do you know that there is not a single mullet in the harbour yet? I have only just started sea fishing, but already worked out that it might be a little too early for mullet yet, but I don't try and pretend I am an 'expert' and put up a ridiculous statement that there is no mullet in the harbour yet. Do you stand there all day and night looking at the harbour?? Laughing  I am sure they don't just arrive en masse at a certain hour on a certain day you know  Rolling Eyes

Anyway, thanks for kind of repeating what I was saying, but in a more stupid way Laughing  Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:59 pm

Youre making yourself very popular colwader, well done!
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:01 pm

Yes Simon is an expert who is there night and day in his professional capacity and if he says their not there yet you can take it that they are not Exclamation
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:07 pm

colwader wrote:
simon parry wrote:
Not been on here for quite a while. Theres no mullet in the harbour yet but it won't be long before they are.
And if no one replies to a question I'd take it as nobody knows.....you don't really want 20 posts saying "sorry don't know" do you[/quote

Who are you, an 'expert'? Rolling Eyes  How do you know that there is not a single mullet in the harbour yet? I have only just started sea fishing, but already worked out that it might be a little too early for mullet yet, but I don't try and pretend I am an 'expert' and put up a ridiculous statement that there is no mullet in the harbour yet. Do you stand there all day and night looking at the harbour?? Laughing  I am sure they don't just arrive en masse at a certain hour on a certain day you know  Rolling Eyes

Anyway, thanks for kind of repeating what I was saying, but in a more stupid way Laughing  Laughing


Actually they do pretty much appear in numbers over night. When they are in you will see them at the same stage of tide in the same place every day. This will be first of flood in the harbour approximately 3-3 1/2 hours before high water and they move up the river with the tide and hug the edges of the water feeding off things as the water goes over them. The best spot to see this is around the new pontoons where the charter boats are, one of which i own. You'll find me down there most days. I quite enjoy watching them pass by as i get the boat ready for a trip. They aren't in yet though but like i said, won't be long
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:10 pm

Who are you, an 'expert'?

Sound's like it! thumbs up

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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:48 pm

stevo wrote:
Who are you, an 'expert'?

Sound's like it! thumbs up

Yeah it does , doesnt it!! Because look, I was the first one to respond to Pete, suggesting the mullet would turn up soon and I am a newbie - no one else bothered Laughing

Granted this chap who makes his living from sea angling, is the nearest thing to an expert on here. But the as for the rest of you............. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:49 pm

Colwader
Your tone is unacceptable and not in keeping with the ethos of SunnyRhyl
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:51 pm

Colwader you have now been banned.
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:54 pm

Nice one notbad its about time Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:54 pm

colwader wrote:
stevo wrote:
Who are you, an 'expert'?

Sound's like it! thumbs up

Yeah it does , doesnt it!! Because look, I was the first one to respond to Pete, suggesting the mullet would turn up soon and I am a newbie - no one else bothered Laughing

Granted this chap who makes his living from sea angling, is the nearest thing to an expert on here. But the as for the rest of you............. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

I live in Manchester so I wouldn't know if mullet was in the harbour
so why would I reply if I don't know Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes but simon did reply and you
were rude with your comments before you found out he probably is the
best person who would know!

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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:18 pm

colwader wrote:
stevo wrote:
Who are you, an 'expert'?

Sound's like it! thumbs up

Yeah it does , doesnt it!! Because look, I was the first one to respond to Pete, suggesting the mullet would turn up soon and I am a newbie - no one else bothered Laughing

Granted this chap who makes his living from sea angling, is the nearest thing to an expert on here. But the as for the rest of you............. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Like i said, no one knew so no one said anything. Its not about not bothering, its waiting for someone whos been to the harbour to say whether they have seen any and if no one has been there then no one could really comment without taking a guess. I don't think you realise how good some of the anglers on here actually are and instead of listening to their advice you seem to prefer starting an argument. I don't claim to be an expert but so you know a little about me, I'm 31 years old and i caught my first fish almost 30 years ago. I spent my childhood crewing for my dad who has been a full time charter skipper since i was 4, was part time before that, crewed on boats since he was a kid and has passed a lot of knowledge onto me. I have been full time for almost 14 years now and, like i said i don't claim to be an expert, but i know quite a bit. I also know a few people on this site have just as much if not more experience than me, especially with the shore fishing, and they are well worth talking to so ease back on the attitude and everyone can just carry on getting along and you might learn a few things as bonus. I for one am happy to share anything with anyone who wants to listen
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:53 am

simon parry wrote:

I for one am happy to share anything with anyone who wants to listen

Good, can I borrow the boat Question boat
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:50 am

I have to agree 100% with Simon.

I've only been a member of this site for a few weeks and the help and advise on here has been fantastic. How anyone can not appreciate the knowledge that is being passed on via this site is beyond my comprehension, especially from experts like Simon.

Thanks all, especially Notbad for banning the only idiot on this site.

There's absolutely no need to verbally abuse anyone, unless they're a Man Utd fan of course, then it's OK.  Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:37 pm

Sorry for asking such a controversial question! LOL I asked if people weren't answering it was because they didn't know!

I went for a moucc Saturday evening just after low, but as suggested, I didn't see any mullet about...

I set up my flattie rod instead, and even blanked on those, with just two silver eels to show for my troubles, although it was a pleasant way to while away a few hours...

Will try again for the mullet in a few weeks time and see if I have any more luck...
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:34 pm

I'll put a post on as soon as i see them pete
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:25 pm

Pete E wrote:
Sorry for asking such a controversial question! LOL I asked if people weren't answering it was because they didn't know!

I went for a moucc Saturday evening just after low, but as suggested, I didn't see any mullet about...

I set up my flattie rod instead, and even blanked on those, with just two silver eels to show for my troubles, although it was a pleasant way to while away a few hours...

Will try again for the mullet in a few weeks time and see if I have any more luck...

It wasn't the question that was controversial!
Good luck on the mullet!
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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:30 pm

Someone may even reveal the secret bait used here by the mythical mullet master.

For those in the know - fresh/frozen/tinned - did we get a firm answer on which was best? Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Any Mullet?   Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:47 pm

Here on the Dee we had no mullet until 1971, when they arrived it was in plague proportions. One guy set a 60 yard net in Talacre and had to go back home to fetch his wheel barrow to carry his catch.
from then on mullet usually arrived around the 10th May[ the same day most fledgling crows leave the nest]. These past 10 years have seen a year on year decline, now there are very few indeed.
Unlike other fish you don't have to see mullet to know if there are any there or not as the case may be. Mullet feeding on mud leave distinct feeding marks, these look like some one has dragged a couple of fingers across the surface of the mud for an inch or two.
If you look at a mullet head on you will see it's mouth is in the shape of the letter W with rounded edges, when they feed on the mud they scoop up the mud on each side of the mouth leaving twin tracks.
We gather samphire near the old point of Ayr colliery dock, the mud is usually covered in mullet feeding marks, but hardly any have been seen these past two years.
Whlst Dee mullet and the marks further North are in steep decline there appears to be plenty of them south of Lleyn. I haven't seen any in Conwy marina this year, but by son sails daily out of Deganwy marina and has seen a few in there.
I don't know if these events are linked but the mullet arrived in 1971 the year Wylfa power station opened, it closed last year and they have all but gone. I have been involved with commercial fishing one way or another since the 1960's, and still own a small licensed boat.
Mullet were rarely targeted through lack of a market, we used to net some for the ethnics market or our own consumption. I feel this is an important point as over fishing can be rulled out as the cause for decline.
While the power station theory is worthy of some consideration,I have to be mindfull that when the glut arrived here in 1971/2, the mullet appeared in great numbers in Strangford Lauch near Belfast. I know this as my brother in law was filling his gillnet with them.
I hope this helps, Dave
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