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PostSubject: How important is a straight and tight line?   Tue May 13, 2014 7:19 pm

Ok - confession time..........

mostly our fishing sessions have involved a "serious" bow in the line  Sad 

..............upon retrieval (with no bite indication) bait has been "hammered"

.............How important is a "tight line"?

...............and how the hell is this achieved???????????

(yours - an Ex-course fisherman used to tight lines)
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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Tue May 13, 2014 9:33 pm

In order to get a tight line use gripper weights then once you've cast your line give it a few seconds for the lead to get to the bottom then tighten the line up until you have a slight bend in the rod which will give you a better indication of a bite  Very Happy 

Good luck and "tight lines"  Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Tue May 13, 2014 10:22 pm

On the other hand if the tide is ripping your weight out, try casting uptide and deliberately leave a big bow, the tide pushes on the line and the wires are pulled into the sand.

I favour pulley rigs used with a wire gripper, theory is the fish pulls on the bait and the pulley rig sets the hook for you as the weight resists the pull from the fish, then you pull the fish in.

A half decent Bass usually leaves you in no doubt it's on whether your line is tight or bowed, a tight line that goes slack might indicate that a very angry fish is running at you seeking revenge.

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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Tue May 13, 2014 11:00 pm

Thats good Paul  Exclamation 
Who told you  Question 

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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Fri May 16, 2014 8:26 am

Logger wrote:
In order to get a tight line use gripper weights then once you've cast your line give it a few seconds for the lead to get to the bottom then tighten the line up until you have a slight bend in the rod which will give you a better indication of a bite  Very Happy 

Good luck and "tight lines"  Very Happy 

Thanks - that is what we had understood, but

we can get the lead to grip, but wind and tide make it impossible to tighten the bow without ripping out the lead Sad 
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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Fri May 16, 2014 8:27 am

Notbad wrote:
On the other hand if the tide is ripping your weight out, try casting uptide and deliberately leave a big bow, the tide pushes on the line and the wires are pulled into the sand.

I favour pulley rigs used with a wire gripper, theory is the fish pulls on the bait and the pulley rig sets the hook for you as the weight resists the pull from the fish, then you pull the fish in.

A half decent Bass usually leaves you in no doubt it's on whether your line is tight or bowed,   a tight line that goes slack might indicate that a very angry fish is running at you seeking revenge.


thanks, yes we noticed the bass was not hanging around at all Shocked 
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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Fri May 16, 2014 8:09 pm

As Paul said you can have a bow in the line if the conditions demand it, just tighten your reel slightly to make the rod tip take up any loose line as its loose line we wish to avoid  Exclamation scratch 
Sometimes aiming your rods at an angle with the wind instead of pointing directly at the sea can help too  Very Happy 

If your using a 6oz gripper and it still won't hold in the sand without releasing its grips then wrap an elestic band around the top of the wires to make it just that bit harder for it to spring open.
If it still won't hold its time to go home  Razz 
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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Sat May 17, 2014 5:48 am

Logger wrote:
As Paul said you can have a bow in the line if the conditions demand it, just tighten your reel slightly to make the rod tip take up any loose line as its loose line we wish to avoid  Exclamation scratch 
Sometimes aiming your rods at an angle with the wind instead of pointing directly at the sea can help too  Very Happy 

If your using a 6oz gripper and it still won't hold in the sand without releasing its grips then wrap an elestic band around the top of the wires to make it just that bit harder for it to spring open.
If it still won't hold its time to go home  Razz 

actually we have been using 3oz.....

time to go shopping maybe?????
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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Sat May 17, 2014 7:45 am

Defo  lol!
Mind you if its flat calm 3oz can be plenty Exclamation 
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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Sun May 18, 2014 9:14 am

Some seriously good info here for the OP
I start off with a 4oz plain lead and let
It have a roll around if it's too tough swap
To a gripper then . Increase weight til it holds.
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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Sun May 18, 2014 10:24 am

Thanks everyone for the "pointers"

We realise our initial tackle purchases were basic (therefore could be expanded later)

Need to sort out decent rod stand too - cheap ones are far too flimsy for the North Wales coast (= winds! - Shhhh!)

More importantly need to find more time to actually go fishing (not been for a month  Crying or Very sad )
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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Mon May 19, 2014 12:22 am

If your tripod has a hook un der the head, quarter fill a carrier
bag with sand/stones and hang it from it to steady it.
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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Mon May 19, 2014 7:57 pm

jimmyjizzmo wrote:
If your tripod has a hook un der the head, quarter fill a carrier
bag with sand/stones and hang it from it to steady it.


..................errr no its just a cheap one!

I will be getting a decent one soon.....

...............Shakespear maybe??????????????
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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Mon May 19, 2014 9:05 pm

Nothing wrong with cheapy ones to get you started  Exclamation
Just put the carrier bag handles over the rod rest bars  Very Happy 
Simples  cheers 

Ade (codcatcher) uses a trio of metal poles which are fixed together with a wing nut, its done him 20 odd years and hasn't cost a penny and he'll out fish most people I know  Exclamation 
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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Mon May 19, 2014 9:20 pm

DunkAndShirl wrote:
Logger wrote:
As Paul said you can have a bow in the line if the conditions demand it, just tighten your reel slightly to make the rod tip take up any loose line as its loose line we wish to avoid  Exclamation scratch 
Sometimes aiming your rods at an angle with the wind instead of pointing directly at the sea can help too  Very Happy 

If your using a 6oz gripper and it still won't hold in the sand without releasing its grips then wrap an elestic band around the top of the wires to make it just that bit harder for it to spring open.
If it still won't hold its time to go home  Razz 

actually we have been using 3oz.....

time to go shopping maybe?????

Are you using a shock leader? Wisdom is 10lb of breaking strain shockleader for every ounce of lead you are casting,  going without a shockleader could result in a 6oz gripper lead in your or your neighbours head and you'll  need to tie a suitable knot, I favour tapered leaders, the thinner end is tied to the main line, this makes knotting easier in my opinion.



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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Tue May 20, 2014 8:11 am

Notbad wrote:
DunkAndShirl wrote:
Logger wrote:
As Paul said you can have a bow in the line if the conditions demand it, just tighten your reel slightly to make the rod tip take up any loose line as its loose line we wish to avoid  Exclamation scratch 
Sometimes aiming your rods at an angle with the wind instead of pointing directly at the sea can help too  Very Happy 

If your using a 6oz gripper and it still won't hold in the sand without releasing its grips then wrap an elestic band around the top of the wires to make it just that bit harder for it to spring open.
If it still won't hold its time to go home  Razz 

actually we have been using 3oz.....

time to go shopping maybe?????

Are you using a shock leader? Wisdom is 10lb of breaking strain shockleader for every ounce of lead you are casting,  going without a shockleader could result in a 6oz gripper lead in your or your neighbours head and you'll  need to tie a suitable knot, I favour tapered leaders, the thinner end is tied to the main line, this makes knotting easier in my opinion.




No at the moment we are using 25lb straight through.....

for the moment I am happy with casting distances (not always direction  Embarassed ) and the simplicity of the set-up

and putting a bigger lead on will increase distance anyway!
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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Tue May 20, 2014 7:43 pm

DunkAndShirl wrote:



putting a bigger lead on will increase distance anyway!

Not necessarily  Exclamation 
Its a mine field I tell you Shocked 
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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Tue May 20, 2014 8:51 pm

25lb line is thicker than 15lb so more air drag casting and more for the tide to push on, Which takes you back to your bow problem and the lead moving, 15lb is typically used on local fairly snag free beaches but use a shockleader between the rig and the main line or it will end in tears .

In case you've not realised yet, sea fishing can seriously damage your wealth.

Happy shopping!
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PostSubject: Re: How important is a straight and tight line?   Wed May 21, 2014 6:34 pm

Notbad wrote:
25lb line is thicker than 15lb so more air drag casting and more for the tide to push on,   Which takes you back to your bow problem and the lead moving, 15lb is typically used on local fairly snag free beaches but use a shockleader between the rig and the main line or it will end in tears .

In case you've not realised yet, sea fishing can seriously damage your wealth.

Happy shopping!

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