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PostSubject: New to sea shore fishing   Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:12 pm

Hi, Im new to not only this site but to fishing. I went to Torquay earlier this year and watched some fishers pulling in fish like there was no tomorrow. I love to cook fish and have some great home recipes, well, Ive been told they taste great. Especially for barbecued fish. I bought my first rod and a small box of mixed tackle for beginners and had a go... I was disappointed until the man fishing next to me said "Try these" and gave me a packet of Hokkai white feathers with flashes and he taught me how to set up a basic line with them and how to best use them and sure enough within 15 minutes I had reeled in 5 mackerel in less than 10 minutes! When I turned to thank him he had gone so a big thank you to the kind stranger who get me started. Now Im addicted, The fish tasted great when I cooked them! I have only fished for a total of 25 minutes. Next year Im heading out for Rhyl...well Towyn near Knightly's Amusement park. Can anyone recommend the best spot to fish from and the best times too also what bait is best would be great too! I will be going around August/September. Thanks for any advice in advance.
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:46 pm

Firstly Welcome to the site  cheers From Knightley's left or right of there it is good fishing also all along to the right is good out from Golden Sands C/van park Ken's Mark top of Woodside Avenue,Asda upto Hortons Nose Good marks all along  cheers 
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:35 pm

Fair play, your planning well ahead ! well done on your joining the throng of madmen !

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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:52 pm

welcome to the forum mate,keep in eye on this forum and you can learn a lot from reading other peoples reports,reply and ask questions and then around the time of fishing ask the locals advice on place,tides,and bait as it can all change within a few days, good luck and happy fishing
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:16 pm

Welcome to the forum  cheers 
Its informative and friendly, if you don't mind having your leg pulled  lol! 
There's lots of lads on here who can give you great information  Exclamation 
Well a couple  Exclamation
Well one  Exclamation 
Maybe  Suspect 
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:41 pm

Welcome to SunnyRhyl ( and beyond)

Feathering for Mackerel isn't impossible there but it's a bit hit and miss when they are about from the shore and a bit shallow, I'd gen up on bait fishing if I were you
( use lugworm) and you have every chance of a Bass  - then you'll be really hooked.

PS stick to High Tide at first until you've studied how the tide floods from Low where you intend to fish, it can be sneaky.
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:20 am

Thank you all for your warm welcome and thank you all for your advice.
Mythical Mullet Master: We will be at the inlaws caravan at Gaingc Park which is a short cast to Knightlys. Thankyou for the good locations.

Ian Roberts: Gives me plenty of time to sort it out. Im looking forward to it. Also I feel right at home here!

Longranger: Good advice, thankyou I will be sure to ask for updates closer to the time.

Logger: I dont mind a bit of leg pulling just as long as theres a fish worth shouting about on the toe!

Notbad: What sort of set up would be best for bass? I would love to reel in one!

Im dying to try this on a bass: A good fillet and clean and then butter and sliced lemon on the skin with a light sprinkle inside and out with basil, parsley and oregano and then drizzle all over with a medium white wine heated in a pan with a a squeeze of fresh lemon juice,a little crushed garlic, salt, and ground black pepper corns... Looks like Im bringing half my kitchen with me this coming summer!

Thank you all again! I feel like its going to be an exciting summer!
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:18 pm

I'll let you have a detailed reply before long Surprised 
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:11 pm

If you're getting your Bass from the supermarket then your recipes are fantastic with lemon, pepper and so on but if you get one fresh from the beach caught by yourself then it wont need any seasoning believe me  Very Happy   santa
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:26 pm

First thing is you don't need to cast far, Bass come in close, I'd suggest using either a spinning or bass rod with a running ledger and a lugworm on a size 2 hook earlyin the year and a bigger hook, say a 1/0 in the autumn, a 1 oz lead will flick out quite far and bump around searching the hollows where a bass might lurk,

Alternatively a beach caster say 15 lb main line on the reel and a pulley rig on the end - readily available in tackle shops, a 5 ounce grip lead covers most situations,
But between your main line and your rig you need a shock leader or the force of casting will snap your line and the lead weight will end up buried in someone's head,
I favour tapered shock leaders for bass fishing they are typically 15 lb breaking straight at the end you tie to your main line ( therefore easier to knot and it makes a smaller neater knot) but tapering up to about 60lb breaking strain at the business end your hook rig is attached to, conventional wisdom is about 10lb of breaking strain per 1 oz of lead weight,  beyond this there are myriads of options, gadgets, theories, fashions and possibilities, just remember all the fish is interested in is your lugworm it doesn't know how much you've spent on shiny gear,
One other thing, if you are going to fish in August swot up on what a weever fish looks like or it will end in tears!
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:39 pm

Paul you have a gift of making something simple sound really complicated  lol! 
Have you been talking to Simon Parry  Question   lol! 
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:22 am

Logger: Definitely give a fresh caught Bass a go with no seasoning. Thanks for the suggestion

Notbad: Im still looking up what half of that gear is! Im definitely a beach caster and may try going out in a boat when I start getting the knack for it. First thing I checked was the Weever Fish...ouch!
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:05 pm

logger wrote:
Paul you have a gift of making something simple sound really complicated  lol! 
Have you been talking to Simon Parry  Question   lol! 

Of course if you copy Logger you will feel the need to thread about a hundred beads on as well...

Simplified instructions: put bait on hook and chuck it out  study 
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:19 pm

I nipped into the local fishing shop, as I was passing, today and found myself confused. I asked about lugworm and they said "Lugworm is good but you can get the same results from lures" and they went on about storm sea bass thunder minnows, Berkleys powerbait for seabass, sandeel 12.5cm even something called bucktail lead head! There were loads more and they went into a bit of detail about them all!
The question is are they any good? Has anybody used these and did they give a good result?
My missus said "If you want fish that bad we can go to the chippy!" She has no idea about how satisfying it is to catch your own and know its fresh.
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:31 pm

Notbad wrote:


if you copy Logger you will feel the need  to thread about a hundred beads on as well...


Your giving away all my secrets  lol!
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:11 am

What colour beads? or dont the fish mind? lol! 

Ive looked up some more of that gear... I had the feeling that it would be more like going harpooning with a torque bow! Ive found out I have all the bits to make one so thats a blessing... I think I might set up a few. One for live bait and 2 different recommended lures. Ive also bought myself a lightweight 25lb line...all Ive got to do is figure out the easiest way to swap the lines over. I recently tried to put a new cord on the garden strimmer. It was not pretty No
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:24 pm

If you find a good way to swap your line let us all know cos when ive done it its a REEL pain  Sad 
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:15 pm

What colour beads?  And what size and do you use floating beads, sinking beads, rattling beads, beads with spots, light Spangly beads or a combination of beads and on and on. It's enough to bring me out in beads of sweat,

Next time you go to the tackle shop ask them what their sharpest pair of scissors is and test them by cutting up your credit card before it's too late!

However depending on what price bracket you are playing in and whether you have a fixed spool reel or a multiplier I'd suggest a spare spool or second reel rather than taking off perfectly good line if you might want it again.

When you venture out to the low tide mark locally look at your feet, you will see the casts of the lugworm beds the fish are feeding over, most shore anglers locally are using lug worm for a reason

Not saying lures don't work around here, in fact they suddenly got fashionable at Prestatyn Sailing Club this year fishing off the boats out over the sandbanks but before you starting chucking £12 or more lures at the sea I'd get used to playing with 30p lug worms first if I were you!

If you do wear yourself out trying lures off our beaches do tell us if it pays off, you might start a trend

The bass on my avatar was caught locally off the beach and it was caught on lug, on a pulley rig and no added beads, it'll do for me.

Mind you I've caught naff all else, I suspect the fish don't read the same fishing books as me
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:33 pm

I like the illuminous beads to attract the all inquisitive flattys with a floating bead near the hook to stop the bait sinking into the mud or soft sand but I think this method is only any good for the flattys as it would probably scare anything else off  Exclamation 
Except Whiting of course  lol! 
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PostSubject: Re: New to sea shore fishing   Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:05 am

I was sitting at home last night watching TV when I saw a wool winding machine in the background and I had an idea. Clamp the reel to a solid surface and put an empty spool on it. Next mount the new line on a mcdonalds straw with a wire coat hanger through it and mount that at the other end of the solid surface...use anything that will tightly clamp them down now get a nut and bolt that will fit where the reels handle is, after removing the handle of course, put the nut on the bolt to restrict it from tightening too much. Next connect a cordless screwdriver to it with a socket and presto! start the line as you normally would and then start up the screwdriver...let that thing do all the boring winding! Im just waiting for my cordless screwdriver to charge up, just another 3 hours to go!cheers 

Im not going to go mad on lures so I will try a couple and see what happens but I will definitely be trying lugworm. After looking at a few of them I might have a shot at making my own... That should raise a few laughs here!

I dont have a credit card so Im safe from the bank manager lol! Dont worry Notbad, Im not going to spend like a loony. Last thing I want to do is lose expensive equipment by not knowing what Im doing. I will buy up to 3 cheap lures and some lugworm just to save time for fishing.

That Bass is awesome so I will most likely skip the beads and use a pulley rig now I know how to make them. Thanks for the advice with that and I will let you know if I come across a working lure but by the sounds of it I will be using lugworm... even if its just to make the missus cringe! lol!

Logger, I might have a try at flatty fishing too
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